GrandNames or a Grand Waste of Money?
I just received news that after a few months of VIP Beta (Ning social network), GrandNames.com is now live and will be announced to the world in all it’s glory sometime next week in a press release.
I want to make it clear here that I have nothing personal against the owner, Mr. Frager, a marketing and business expert turned domainer. Frager is a very inspirational person who stays in the loop on domain news, often sharing valuable and thought-provoking blog posts. I also enjoy his email newsletter.
I simply feel that the service and domains themselves found on GrandNames are over-rated and over-priced.
The majority of house listings, which I assume are owned by Mr. Frager, are completely worthless. Yes, I am a realist who is quite picky when it comes to the quality of a domain name and potential for a domain name to be used and benefit an end-user.
- OutOfStealthMode.com - $999 (DotSauce Appraisal: $0)
- PeoplePlanetProfits.org - $999 (DotSauce Appraisal: $0)
- ReservedSeat.com - $999 (DotSauce Appraisal: $200)
- SoundsFunnyToMe.com - $999 (DotSauce Appraisal: $0)
- Too-Sexy.com - $899 (DotSauce Appraisal: $8)
- WhosTheRealDaddy.com - $999 (DotSauce Appraisal: $0)
- GrandmaGotCoupons.com - $899 (DotSauce Appraisal: $0)
How could you, in good conscience sell domains like these? This is just a small sampling of some of the domains found on GrandNames.To be fair, only about 25% of the domains listed on GrandNames are these terrible house listings. With the VIP listings it almost gets worse. The same trend of high prices for mediocre domain names continues.
I paid $15 a long time ago when the beta was first announced, the price is $49.95 a year as of today. I was able to submit a handful of domains to be listed… though I did not opt for fee based premium marketing services (a blog post).
- DiscSet.com - $900
- TelephonePrank.com - $750
While I hope they sell through the miracle of marketing and promotion to Mr. Frager’s clients, I have my doubts and feel these could be better promoted elsewhere on forums or other domain marketplaces.
In summary, I do not recommend GrandNames as a domain buyer, seller or end-user. Do the research yourself, DotSauce has lots of great articles to help. Launch your own free domain portfolio and get the word out. Marketing and advertising isn’t that hard if you put the hours in. Think for a minute before you register a worthless domain name.
What are your thoughts? Please comment below.
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October 18th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
Agreed. But sadly whostherealdaddy.com has a huge market.
Just one ad during a Jerry Springer, and you’d have monetize slime fest. So as much as I hate it, as a domain, it has upside.
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October 18th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
People who live in glass houses shouldn’t be so quick to throw stones.
I think it’s in poor taste to be so critical of Owen, especially since your AQDN sales portal is selling names like XboxPreviews.com. XBox is a Microsoft trademark. By offering to sell the name, you are attempting to profit from their mark which is a violation of the Lanham Act.
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October 18th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
But you aren’t running a fan site. You are selling a domain name that might have value because of their trademark.
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October 18th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
I am glad someone besides me felt the same way about the subject of this post. That’s all I’ll say about that as I respect the owner of that site intellectually and marketingwise but in terms of domaining not so much.
To Ed Shaz, why pay $999 for whostherealdaddy.com when you can register whostherealfather.com or whostherealdad.com for reg fee? I think those are almost as good for much less. Those are yours for free or anyone else who’s interested courtesy of me. Enjoy.
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October 18th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Owen Frager/Frager Factor… have you read the man’s bio? Have you looked at his body of work and accomplishments? Have you taken a look at who reads his blog and who the comments link back to? Have you seen his resume?
I guarantee you, if his model doesn’t work, he will be the first one to tweak it. A lot of the domains for sale are “call to action domains”. You should do some research on the large number of companies using this stragegy in marketing campaigns.
Time will tell… but I wouldn’t bet against him.
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October 18th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Finally! I’m so tired of people afraid to criticize another person for fear of hurting their own rep. So everyone’s blogs become so water-down with uninspiring and original content that tells it like it is.
Grandnames.com is just bad, BUT the more over-priced, terrible names I see for sale, the better they make my names look. So kudos, Grandnames, keep up the good…er…terrible work!
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October 18th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
I agree with your post, i find fragers posts spammy, and often promoting names that TooCrappyTooBuy.com , then he writes some shitty description where he rationalizes why this name worth more then reg price. Just because you reged it, doesn’t mean you need to sell every name that CameToYourMind.com
I wrote few messages on his blog, he never posted them, which would be along the message of thie post.
Grand name is waste, and because it is owned by Frager i would avoid it as bubonic plague. No offense fragger, i just think you do 0% service to domainers with your spammy blog posts. Simple truth, if got nothing to say, don’t say it.
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October 18th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Mark,
I’m sorry that you are disappointed. I have refunded your $16.95 and closed your access. I’m sorry that you won’t be able to experience the site after public launch but do hope that $16.95 buys you a couple lattes before you and the rest of the domain community who lives or dies by Overture scores, faces the reality of bread lines and food stamps for not willing to embrace the unknown.
Truthfully, all domain suck except to the one person who can make a business from it. Until you find that person, everything else is mute.
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October 18th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
“Truthfully, all domain suck except to the one person who can make a business from it. Until you find that person, everything else is mute.”
That’s so wrong, I’m not sure where to even begin. Generic, generic, generic! Kevin Ham and Frank Schilling have 300,000 domains each and none of their domains needs a business built on them to have value.
It doesn’t matter if you are a marketing expert, a Nobel Prize winner in physics, the CEO of Google, it doesn’t make you an expert domainer. This is not a bashing of ‘call to action’ domains as I am a fan and think they have their place and provide value. However, if all you have are domains that I can hand reg similar ones that are almost as good, that is not a good thing. I just hope newbies don’t follow and go nuts on ‘clever’ sounding names. They may sell but you may have to wait a long long time if ever.
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October 18th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
Mark I am very surprised by this post, I don’t recognize you there.
It’s not a very nice attitude you have:
Frager like you is part of our domaining community.
Like you he has put a lot of his money, time and hopes in his domain selling service.
It’s clear these are not the names a domainer use to purchase but who said the target of his marketplace was domainers?
Even if you and Frager are launching at the same time marketplaces for low priced names I don’t think GrandNames be your competitor.
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October 18th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
Art,
Couldn’t agree more with your post. “Spam” is probably the best way to explain it. Just because someone has a blog, doesn’t mean that domaining.com needs to post it. There should be a filter.
And i wish Owen would stop posting his crappy names that only 1 person in the entire world would ever consider buying - GrandmaGotCoupons.com for $900?!?!?!? Are you f-ing kidding me?!? “Got” isn’t even correct grammer. Grandnames.com and Owen’s blog all just sound so selfish…
Sorry to vent, but I hate spam.
DotSauce, once again, nice opinion piece on this posting.
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October 18th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
We are entitled to free speech, but this type of post is negative for the domain industry, in many ways more than one. There are other ways to do domain blogging.
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October 19th, 2008 at 12:09 am
[...] Mark Fulton of DotSauce.com wrote an interesting post today about Owen Frager’s GrandNames: GrandNames or a Grand Waste of Money? [...]
October 19th, 2008 at 12:24 am
This bashing of Frager sounds very similar to the bashing Rick Schwartz always seems to receive. If this is any indication of Frager’s potential success - I am sure he will appreciate all the negative comments!
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October 19th, 2008 at 12:46 am
Someone better tell AOL that “you got mail” is bad grammar. And someone better read Ogilvy on Advertising or have a clue about how Madison Ave writes and how consumers read before you open your uninformed whiny mouths. If you REALLY want to waste your money in the domain space– dnforum, afternic and namepros will be glad to take your money to sit around and trade conspiracy theories all day.
Is Frager holding a gun to YOUR head to visit his blog or buy his Grandmother’s domain? (which no doubt she created and is only there because of sentimental value).
As for spamming, I can assure you that any thread that discusses Frager or that Frager links to by discussing it on his blog will have a RECORD traffic day. And after experiencing that, maybe Mark will realize what Frager brings to the subscribers of Grand Names is far more then a few debatable domains.
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October 19th, 2008 at 12:50 am
You say it like it is, good work Mark… by the way Dot Sauce dot sucks big time!
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October 19th, 2008 at 1:55 am
So where should I try to sell RenoNevadaRentals.com I know its a long name but has substance.Any thoughts
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October 19th, 2008 at 2:16 am
It is all about perception!!!(Prospect Buyer, Blogger, Domainer, Business Owner, Marketer or Anyone related to this Business)
That said we should respect all the opinions posted and try to be a little bit more constructive for our benefit.
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October 19th, 2008 at 3:51 am
“I’m sorry that you won’t be able to experience the site after public launch but do hope that $16.95 buys you a couple lattes before you and the rest of the domain community who lives or dies by Overture scores, faces the reality of bread lines and food stamps ….
Truthfully, all domain suck except to the one person who can make a business from it …” Frager
I agree that this blog post is like throwing stones in a glass house; but Frager’s response here is completely digressive and inaccurate as it relates to domain names.
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October 19th, 2008 at 4:20 am
Everybody is awake now! I thought it was spot on! Mark, don’t stop blogging your POV just because you have been scolded. Even the domainers that didn’t like what you had to say are going to come for more because you shake things up a bit. I, myself, don’t even click on fragers posts anymore. I have spent too much of my valuable time reading about nothing or pathetic rhetoric where he’s busy stroking someone he’s trying to suck up to. Anyway I am usually rather gentle in my posts even if I don’t like what someone has to say…except when my time is completely wasted and that is truly the case with fragers posts. I’m thinking you probably saved a few newbie’s some money and reaffirmed what a lot of people already thought but were too afraid to mention. Thanks. and please don’t resort to vanilla water downed blogging like so many others have done just to save face. Success is founded on risk even at the expense of pain.
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October 19th, 2008 at 4:48 am
Owen is a smart guy. I have a lot of respect for him. I wouldn’t be too quick to judge — the site hasn’t even reached its public launch yet.
You’d only have to sell one domain for $16.95 more than you paid and you made your money back. That’s like saying a $5 TDNAM membership is a waste of money. And, like TDNAM, you have to sift through what you don’t want if you want to buy.
The corporate-level marketers that are buying the call-to-action names wouldn’t cry over $999 if they wanted a domain. I’m sure if you were in Owen’s position by having traffic come in from many corporate outlets, you’d take any chance you could at selling a name you hand registered.
It will be interesting to see how GrandNames evolves in the next year, but I personally wouldn’t call $16.95 for a year of membership a waste of money.
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October 19th, 2008 at 5:41 am
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October 19th, 2008 at 10:30 am
I totally agree, sick of the sight of frager posts all over domaining.com and i only discovered domaining website recently, im new to domains but it seems to me that whoever runs domaining is either in love with frager or frager has compromising pictures of him.
In fact im so sick sick of the frager domaining com site i wont visit again, and why should i visit anyhow you have to sign in to read the posts - dumb as hell
i just bookmark my fav domain blogs and go direct
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October 19th, 2008 at 10:47 am
Seems to me that if frager posted about his latest bowel movement it’d get posted on domaining
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October 19th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Wow it sounds like High School With Money around here lol Oh yea Frager try that one HighSchoolWithMoney.vg that is worth 200k.
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October 19th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Well done DotSauce, excellent post. You only summarized what a lot of domainers think but don’t talk about for fear of being castigated.
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October 19th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Wow thank god someone else caught on. As soon as i saw that it was ran on a wordpress blog and through ning(a free social network) i knew it was a joke. Owen is a great guy but there is no advantage to the service in my opinion. IMO, its border line scam…
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October 19th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Bravo sir, i agree 100%, there is a lot of tosh out there that is being pedalled at crazy prices. Still i’ve got to give it to Frager for gaining PR and marketing his butt off. We might all find his blog posts a complete waste of time, but he can pique interest in what he’s doing and to be honest nowadays that’s half the battle. Got nothing against Owen and i hope he succeeds, it’s also good for our industry. All i ask if he’s reading is to put his posts into “One” blog post, and make it valuable, not 10 posts about absolute nonesense - problem is he always gets me with the title (best way to think of is is like a service station sandwich - all of the filling is upfront - you buy the sandwich expecting a nice feed and once you’ve opened it up you realise there’s nothing of substance in there.)
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October 19th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Well, when it comes to worthless, or almost worthless domain names I suspect you know something about that. I checked out aqdn and boy those are some bad names. You see whether you are trying to sell it for $995 or $9.95 a bad domain name is still just a bad domain name. Discuss FM, daily cds? huh? These are what YOU call good domains. I mean, I guess you liked em well enough to register them right. Tell me Mark, how could you in good conscience register these nevermind try to sell them! Waste of reg fees dude. Throw in that XBOX domain and it says alot, alot about you, alot about your domains, and alot about your business model. Not only are you dumb enough to register this domain, you are dumb enough to advertise that you are selling it, kind of an admission that you trade in TM names despite your own acknowledgement that “its not the best practise”. Try practising what you preach. Fortunately you are not a threat to true domainers because you wont be in business long enough to be a threat to true domainers. For you to take a holyer than thou position on someone elses reg patterns is a joke. When you dont like the service you request a refund. Why slag Owen Frager? Let people decide for themselves what has value to them. Like I said your names suck too…..now what? Apart from being a jerk for slamming Frager for no good reason, you are delusional if you believe in anyway that MicroSoft does not care about or protect their trademarks. I wouldn’t be too suprised if you receive something in the mail from them soon.
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October 19th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
Hey Kevin Ham talked about HIS bowel movements at TRAFFIC and received a standing ovation. No shit!
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October 20th, 2008 at 12:38 am
It’s gettin deep in here.
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October 20th, 2008 at 3:59 am
Both Mark and Owen are setting up shop to attract end-user sales… Mark has his own private site while Owen reached out to domainers (first!) and provided free hosting + traffic to our domain listings.
Owen went out on a limb, excepting names from the VIPs, and what did the VIPs give him? Breaststroke.org and 0rganic.org (with a zero)… WTF, and these are far from the worst names. Owen massively publicizes the kinds of domains he’s looking for to build this new site and now he’s stuck with chaff.
I’ve got names listed and tried to follow the formula, but I’d welcome a second vetting, names kicked off and refunds given. Then a big ComeOnDomainersTryAgain (.com)
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October 20th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Guess no one has heard about Frager’s 7-figure deal with Ning to lease names for their other forums?
Only reason I know is because shortly after posting my story in the DomainSuccess.com forum, I got an email from Frager and he put together a deal for one of my more expensive names (that was not even listed on his site) to be leased as the name for one of the largest Cancer survivor forums in the world- which btw, is on Ning.
IMHO, Frager’s value is not about which technology he uses or names listed … it’s about his value as a teacher and a rainmaker.
There’s more deals being made from the social network, for the better names that far exceed $1000 that aren’t even listed on the site. Judging a book by its cover is very short sighted.
For $16.95 I have everything to gain and nothing to lose.
Mark is trying to be a Fraqger copycat using John McCain tactics to knock the competition because he doesn’t have a track record for his own product. As McCain is proving, this is a recipe for failure.
I also have problems with the knocking of Domaining.com with the obvious attempt to copy their model, take their subscribers and rip off their service inventions.
Shame on you!
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October 20th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
So is TransferringSchools.Com a silly name and who would want to sell it.I don’t know how to do this.newbie
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October 20th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
@JB
Is there a way to verify this “7-figure deal with Ning” that you’re referring to, or are we just simply to take your word for it?
For that matter, are there any third-party, independent sources from which we can verify any of Mr. Owen Frager’s proclamations? I’m just noticing here: for a person who is seemingly a marketing genius, I don’t see much of anything out there about him personally that comes from a trustworthy source. From what I’ve uncovered, via a simple google search, it seems as though Mr Frager is discouraging at least some domainers from flourishing in the business, as we can see from a recent (August 11, 2008) blog post: http://www.leonblog.com/archives/2008/080811.htm
Sorry to put the marketing guru on the spot, but it would be rather nice to clear some of this stuff up for us.
There’s no intent to smear Mr Frager by mentioning this - I’m just a bit skeptical and that’s all. Thank you.
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October 21st, 2008 at 1:09 am
“have you read the man’s bio? Have you looked at his body of work and accomplishments? Have you taken a look at who reads his blog and who the comments link back to? Have you seen his resume?”
If it’s on the internetz it must be true. Frager is a known liar
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October 21st, 2008 at 3:10 am
I just went to his site and went through the process and there is a waiting list that costs 49.95 wtf I got these if ya want them, I know not the strongest names but still decent.And speaking of decent I got DecentSeats.Com
ButterMyBiscuit.Com
AussieCreditReport.Com and Reports.
BuzzedAgain.Com
SellingaView.Com
BuyMyFilm.Com
RentMyFilm.Com
SellingTheView.Com
BrandNewBride.Com
DallasSoccerMoms.Com
EverythingForDummies.Com and a lot of good call to action names.
Hey Fragger you can come get em if you want. But I am not dishing out 50 bucks for the hell of it.
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October 21st, 2008 at 3:39 am
Skeptical Domainer - Kudos for speaking up and not backing down to this bully blackmailer. Really check out some of his stuff…it’s all lies. I hope some of the bloggers carry your daughters story. It’s people like the Frager dude that give us all a bad name.
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October 21st, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Looks like Sondra the “bait and switch” namer’s got multiple personality syndrome again- having a great conversation with her own 7 invented personas in this thread.
Meanwhile I have to correct the record- don’t know who is impersonating who here but while one of our members sold a domain to a NING forum, there is no 7 figure-deal with me. 7-figure potential, however, is a very real opportunity for the members of Grand Names as the owners of Ning are receptive to our help. Domain leasing is already a Ning product and that’s why I decided to land there.
This morning we launched publicly and were covered in over 1000 publications including Forbes
http://www.forbes.com/prnewswire/feeds/prnewswire/2008/10/21/prnewswire200810210600PR_NEWS_USPR_____CLTU011.html
I am happy to refund anyone’s money who is not satisfied and urge people to make informed decisions now that the site is launched and give us a month to understand the model and what we can accomplish together.
Also want to thank Mark. Controversy is also great for PR. The past three days we had record traffic on both Frager Factor and Grand Names where 5 names were sold and $2000 in premium marketing services applied to the advantage of members who include the top names in domaining.
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October 21st, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Owen Says: Looks like Sondra the “bait and switch” namer’s got multiple personality syndrome again- having a great conversation with her own 7 invented personas in this thread.
I say, a scammer always thinks everyone is doing what he is doing!
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October 21st, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Forbes picks up any and all press releases from prnewswire. Big deal. .. . it’s called a news feed.
Any business this controversy will get you will be sort lived when people see through the facade.
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October 21st, 2008 at 6:41 pm
From Forbes.com:
“PR Newswire - Press Release”
/ “This morning we launched publicly and were COVERED in over 1000 publications including Forbes” Frager /
Being covered in a publication and sending out a press release are VERY different things.
/ “… having a great conversation with her own 7 invented personas in this thread.” Frager /
I certainly hope you have proof of such an accusation. Why make such a statement?
/ “… give us a month to understand the model” Frager /
What? Haven’t you been setting this up for months already? If you’re asking people who paid you to wait till you get this sorted out after launch then you shouldn’t have charged them during its beta phase.
/ “Controversy is also great for PR.” Frager /
Any press is good press but controversy is not good for public relations (PR). I don’t know where you dug that one up but you need to put it back in its box.
I like a lot of what you write in your blog Owen, and I also think a lot of it can be tossed. But, to go at it here with a group of posters who you think are fake doesn’t do any justice to grandnames.com or its PR.
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October 21st, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Mr. Fragen also seems to exaggerate on more than one occasion. For instance, this is what he writes in a recent article from his website The Frager Factor (Just posted this past Saturday): “PayPal Shops sends millions of visitor there each day…”(http://fragerfactor.blogspot.com/2008/10/dress-that-man-com.html.
So, which domain name receives these “millions of visitors”? it’s DressThatMan.com. That statement is hardly a fact, however. A simple Compete.com snapshot inquiry puts the website at under 15k visitors a month… let alone each day!
It sounds like a lot of hype is coming out of Mr Frager’s blog, yet little substance.
Could it be that Mr Owen subscribes to the “Big Lie” strategy, which goes something like “people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.”
Not a great marketing strategy in my opinion.
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October 22nd, 2008 at 4:31 am
Skeptic,
Compete.com only measures search traffic from 73 keywords that drive traffic to dressthatman.com. It does not have access to the server stats nor would know the referral stats from PayPal’s server, though they would like to sell their analytics package to dressthatman.com (which is the point of offering the limited analysis).
Compete claims with all but the biggest domains of public record that “We have little data for dressthatman.com, so these are rough estimates.”
If you contact PayPal about a program to get your site listed in their shops, they will offer you the success stories of those who are there now.
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October 22nd, 2008 at 10:31 am
Well I’m so sick of FragerDomaining.com (aka Domaining.com) that I’ve just emailed Francois to remove my Url Academy feed from his site.
I’m so tempted to go into all the reasons I’m pissed off with his site but I’ll refrain.
Hats off to you for making this post - loads of folks are sick of Francois, Frager and the way Domaining.com is run.
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October 22nd, 2008 at 11:50 am
@Roger:
Using the new tool DNFame.com, here’s how DressThatMan.com fares:
Google Pagerank: 4
Alexa Rank: 277,188
Famous Rank: 8/10 *
Complete Rank: 102,993
Quantcast Rank: 92,014
Technorati Rank: 770,942
Based on these figures, it doesn’t appear that DressThatMan.com would get “millions of visitor there each day”. What tool do you suggest I use to arrive closer to Mr. Frager’s estimates?
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October 22nd, 2008 at 1:01 pm
You could ask Frager to show the log files for the domain. But any stats can be manipulated.
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October 23rd, 2008 at 7:23 am
@ Tony who says “Kevin Ham and Frank Schilling have 300,000 domains each and none of their domains needs a business built on them to have value” Have you seen their portfolios? Trust me, they do not own anywhere close to 300,000 generics each and both have their share of brandable, longtail, call to action, and less than stellar names that could not pay for themselves in the absence of arbitrage.
@ Concerned…..Frager can not show you the log files for dress that man because he doesnt own the domain name. Perhaps he was saying that since the page on which the dress that man ad is seen by many millions of users of Paypals services on a daily basis that the domain name benefits from lots of traffic. While I dont know or pretend to know the #s I assume it does benefit from its placement there.
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November 9th, 2008 at 2:11 am
[...] between Mark Fulton and Owen Frager. Mark states that Owen’s GrandNames is a “Grand Waste“; Owen gives a “thumbs down” to Mark’s blog and his AQDN marketplace. I [...]
November 9th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
I’m glad someone finally wrote about this, it had to be written by someone prominent in the Domaining community. We quit reading Domaining.com for several reasons - 1) because you’re required to login 2) Because Francois thinks he’s some type of NY Times Editor and he’s NOT and 3) because the entire Domaining.com site is spammed by Owen’s blog posts ranging from AnotherSpamPost(.com) to ThisIsMy500thPostToday(.com). Owen has definitely done something right, but the problem is, when new domainers fall into his trap - they go out and hand reg’ hundreds of crappy domains, and then wonder why no one’s buying. It’s a shame, because it ruins new domainers just learning the ropes who don’t know better.
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November 9th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Mark,did you see this?? Looks like Owen got ugly just because you shared your opinion. He’s reported you to Microsoft because TM names? This is a new low. Just because he didn’t agree with your opinion, he decided to turn you in. What a slime ball
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November 10th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
Whoa. What happened to the new bi-partisan spirit inspired by president elect Obama? :-)
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November 12th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
I just saw on Twitter that Mark was the most Fragerized, now thats a hoot!
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November 12th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
You have to follow NextedLoser on Twitter he’s one snarky dude.
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January 7th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Whoever this Frager guy is he has nothing to do with DressThatMan.com and certainly does not know our stats.
Infact all the estimate sites are way off and just trying to sell their services. Alexa often shows hits falling when our hits are off the charts.
Quancast is miles off on accurate figures and the rest we don’t even bother to check.
As we put on our Myspace:
“2008 we had over 1,200,000 visitors on the site who looked at over 4 MILLION pages. Thanks for making 2008 was a fantastic year at DressThatMan.com”
Mystery solved.
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February 10th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
I think domain names alone are not worth much at all it is what you make of them. What is the saying…It is not the size of the boat, it is the motion of the ocean.
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